Gemstone Cowgirl

the lore of gems and stones * life in the sonora * and having your first novel out there

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Quick disclaimer: I'm not a cowgirl. I'm a writer and an editor, and though I live in Tucson, the only creatures I've herded are cats. [My record is three at once.] But I've had a lifelong interest in gems, stones, and their lore, especially the way they turn up in myths and folktales. All of this fed my first fantasy novel, A Rumor of Gems, which Tor published in June 2005. So I'm currently writing the sequel, and I'd like this blog to be a place to discuss stones and the beliefs connected with them--everything from Vedic and Egyptian lore to shamanic and current metaphysical beliefs. I welcome any lore or stone stories that readers are willing to share. For an idea of the sort of research I've been immersed in, check out the essay on Gemlore that I wrote for the Endicott Studio for Mythic arts: www.endicott-studio.com, where you can find it under Spring Journal 2005. And there's lots of information on the book, sources of inspiration, and the stones themselves on my website: ellensteiber.com. I hope you'll check it out.

Sunday, August 21, 2005

My First Reading and Suiseki

Well, I survived my first real reading. I'd read parts of short stories before in group readings, but this was the first time it was just me and my novel. The reading was very kindly hosted by Tucson's east side Barnes & Noble. They set up a table in the front of the store for me, with lots of my books nicely arranged, facing about a dozen chairs.

W.E. Reinka -- writer, ex-book tour escort, and friend--gave me what turned out to be my pre-reading mantra: "Just remember, you're among friends." And fortunately that turned out to be true. About half the seats were filled with friends, the other half with people who just stopped by. There was no mike but it was small space, and I'm pretty sure everyone was able to hear the two sections from A Rumor of Gems that I read. I also read the last paragraph from my essay on The Lore of Stones [see www.endicott-studio.com ], because that's as close as I've come to figuring out the roots of this fascination/obsession with rocks and gems.

Thomas Harlan and his wife, Suzanne, and son Nathan were among those who showed, and Thomas, having published 5 novels, was a wonderfully calming influence. When I admitted that in the reading I had to slightly change the text, he assured me that nearly everyone does because there are just some things that don't work as well aloud as they do on the page. He also assured me that nearly every writer has a signing where no one shows up, so if it happens, not to take it personally. Being an introvert, I'll probably approach any sort of public performance with a bit of trepidation but this first one took a lot of the fear out of it.

I think we might have only sold 5 books as a result of the reading -- this is definitely not Harry Potter-- but the B&N staff were fine with that, telling me the point of the reading was to get me and the book known and out there, so I hope that's what it did. To all who stopped by, and to B&N staff who are supporting the book, you have my gratitude. There was one especially lovely moment. The reading was over, I was packing up to leave, when a friend I hadn't seen for years -- the collage artist David Adix--showed up with a friend of his. So David is now the third person whom I haven't been touch with in ages, who's turned up again thanks to the book. It's one of those gifts of having your work out there that no one tells you about.

Another friend this week told me about suiseki, and when she described it, I couldn't believe it was the first time I'd heard the term--partly because it's a stone-centered art and partly because in the past I've done a lot of research on traditional Japanese culture. Suiseki is, according to www.suiseki.com, "the study and enjoyment of naturally formed stones as objects of beauty." The word suiskei is composed of sui, which means water, and seki, which means stone. Suiseki are often displayed at bonsai shows because like bonsai, they are a world in microcasm.

For years now I've been collecting rocks that probably don't look like much to anyone else, but I look them and see mountain ranges and islands and desert canyons cut by water. To my delight, when I began reading about suiseki I discovered that there was an entire poetic language to catalog rocks of this sort. Among the Scenic Landscape Stones, are Mountain Stones that include Single and Tripple-Peak stones, Rugged Mountain stones, and Mesa Stones. There are also Waterfall and Plateau stones, Shore and Reef stones, and Slope and Cave stones. Additionally, suiseki classifies stones by color and surface pattern, among them Flower-, Leaf-, Snake-, Sun-, Star-, and Lightning-patterned stones.

I, of course, have an amateur's approach to suiseki. I don't have my stones displayed on the customized wooden stands, and I'd have to put a good deal of study into the matter before I could attempt to catalog any of my finds. And it's entirely possible that someone who actually practices the formal art of suiseki would find my collection laughable. Since I have no desire to exhibit my rocks, that's really not a problem. Most of my suiseki pieces consist of common granite, basalt, gneiss, feldspar, or sandstone, and the wonderful thing is that almost all are rocks picked up during walks on the beach or in the desert; many I found lying on on the side of the road. These are not objects which are either expensive or particularly hard to find. It's beauty that's all around us and only needs be recognized.

Okay, back to my deadlines.

Cheers,

E.







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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you the same Ellen Steiber that wrote the Zodiac Chillers? If so, how many actually came out??? I've only been able to find 2... #4 Twisted Taurus and #6 Pisces Drowning. I'm so confused!

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Blogger E. said...

My gosh! I forgot all about the Zodiac Chillers. Yes, those are the two that I wrote. The others in the series were written by other writers, and the series as a whole was the brianchild of the editor, Ruth Koeppel. I don't know how many Random House published altogether. At one point we talked about me writing a third book called The Thirteenth Sign, which had something to do with Asklepious, as I recall, but it never happened.

Thanks for your question, a true blast from the past.

All best,

E.

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Anonymous Domini said...

Hello! :) Just wanted to say, I like your book A Rumor of Gems a lot. Bought it on a whim--I normally don't buy hardcovers from authors I've never read before--but it's from Tor (a high quality publisher), had a really interesting opening, there was a blurb from Jacqueline Carey on the back, and I run a Jacqueline Carey-related fansite. And I like gems too, particularly yowah opals. So I took it home with me. But it's a good book, and you're a good writer, and I'm glad I took the risk.

You say on your site that you're working on the second book I believe. Sounds great! :) I'd like to see a series set in this world. :)

Thank you for writing such a high-quality read. :)

~~Domini
http://www.entanglement.us/eglantine

5:59 AM  
Blogger E. said...

Dear Domini:

Thank you for all the kind words about the book. I can't tell you how wonderful it feels to get feedback like that. And I have great admiration for Jaqueline Carey's work; I felt very honored when she gave me that quote. Actually, I recently met a number of [American] Tibetan Buddhists who are also very excited by her books.

As for the sequel to Rumor, the whole time I was writing the first book I was swearing up and down that I'd never do another book on stones because it took so much research. But then I got to the end and I found that the qualities of the stones were coming more easily to me. Beyond that, I really wanted to spend more time in the Source Place. The plot dictated that Lucinda and Alasdair couldn't remain there very long, but I realized there was this whole world that I could see very clearly and I wanted to explore it. And I already knew what would bring Lucinda back there. So I'm working on that now.

And opals ... I've heard of yowah opals and looked at photos but I'm not sure I've actually seen one. They sound quite extraordinary. Meanwhile, I keep finding myself staring at this small but brilliant black opal--also from Australia, a Lightning Ridge--that I picked up at Gem Show last year. There is so much going on inside that stone; hope I can do it justice in this next book.

Thank you for taking a chance on A Rumor of Gems and writing to tell me about it. I feel so lucky that the book is finding readers like you.

All best,

E.

9:22 PM  
Anonymous Domini said...

Hi again,

Actually, I recently met a number of [American] Tibetan Buddhists who are also very excited by her books.

::laughs:: Are we talking about the Kushiel or Sundering books? Or both? That's hilarious (sp?). :D May I quote that? I would like to put a blurb about your book on House Eglantine today or tomorrow... :) At the moment I have this gigantic blurb about Battlestar Galactica, which is a very good show, but I should be promoting more good books, not TV which is already promoted out the wazoo.

I can't remember where I found out about Yowah Opals, but I did research on them some months ago because they're...well, pretty. I don't own any either, unfortuantely. I don't know their properties, but you just look at these wood-looking stones (I think some are in fossilized wood?) that have these streaks of blueish "lightening" or "pools" and it's just fascinating..."ordinary" opals are grand enough, but I love the interplay of shimmering opal and opaque but richly colored...I think it's ironstone? Something like that. Rich browns.

Did you know you can get your hands on a lot of different gems on eBay? Even if you don't purchase any, they have really good pictures if you can sort out the commercial bulk sellers and find the small businesses who put up nice big photos. It's really random to find stuff like that on ebay...but there's a lot of small Australian opal miners selling there, and they have some pretty spiffy stuff up. I guess it lets them hit a bigger marketplace. Eventually I intend to buy one...or two...maybe three ;) ...I'm just afraid I'll end up with a bunch of gems starting a collection. I already collect SFF books, but at least they're relatively price-fixed...starting to collect gems would be a disaster on my pocket book!

Anyway...I'd actually be surprised if you *weren't* doing another book set in your world; it's obvious you did put so much work and research into it, and that just lends itself to more stories. (or at least with me it does) I'd like to learn more about all the gods and how they interact. And other creatures. And shapeshifiters (I love shapeshifters.) I look forward to reading it!

Thank you, btw, for all the research you did...I like it when I can learn new things from the books I read. :) Some of my favorite books have strong...I don't know what you'd call it, but the author has a specialty in another area besides writing, and it comes through in the book and teaches you something. I like that.

~~Danni

12:51 PM  
Blogger E. said...

Hi, Danni:

Re: the Tibetan Buddhists, they didn't specify which books. I'd attended a talk at a retreat and afterward, while talking to a few of the monks, I said I'd written a fantasy novel that Tor published, and one of them said "Tor? That's Jacqueline Carey's publisher!" And then a number of them told me how much they loved her books, but they didn't specifiy which series. So I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that Jacqueline Cary appeals to all American Tibetan Buddhists, but she definitely has some fans among them here in southern Arizona. So am not sure what kind of quote you can get from that, but it is the truth.

And no, I haven't checked Ebay for stones, mostly because I think I already spend more time on line than I can afford. But I appreciate youu telling me about it as a resource for photos of various minerals; I probably will check it out at some point.

You're very welcome for all. There will definitely more gods and shapeshifts in this second book, and I, too, want more of a sense of how the gods interact, so that's something I'm reading up on.

And I'd love to have a blub about my book on House Eglantine. Thank you!

All best,

E.

P.S. I'll keep an eye out for Yowah opals when Gem Show rolls into town next year. I definitely know that feeling of "maybe I'll buy one . . . or two .. or three."
Very dangerous to the bank account,these gems, but they do delight.

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Anonymous handworn said...

Have you studied Chinese "scholar's rocks"? I've seen museum displays of them, and would love to have one myself, but they're a bit expensive, especially the naturally occurring ones.

8:08 AM  
Blogger E. said...

Greetings, handworn:

Thank you for writing and sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you.

Actually, I didn't know anything about Chinese scholar rocks until I saw your question. I immediately checked them out on line, and found that they were the aesthetic ancestors of Suiseki. They are definitely something that I need to learn more about.

According to http:shimagata.tripod.
com/srhist.htm. the Chinese tradition of "collecting rocks for religious or aethestic purposes" dates back to the Han Dynasty (206 B.C. - C.E. 220), though Gongshi, the collecting of Scholar's Rocks, dates back to the Song Dynasty (960-1270). The Scholar's Rocks, are like Suiseki rocks, small individual stones, often displayed on the customized wooden stands. Most of the photos I saw on-line showed long, thin rocks displayed verticaly. Many of them were perforated with many holes; others had been chosen for indentations, wrinkles, or folds. Overall, they seem to have a different sculptural sense than the Suiseki rocks. The website cited above states that some of these sculptural qualities are not the work of the elements;in many cases the rocks have been "drilled, ground down, and polished to enhance their beauty."

M.I.T., it turns out is currently a major center for scholars who collect Scholar's Rocks. Where did you see the museum display?

According to www.spirit-stones.com,
holes and openness in a stone allow air and moonlight to pass through, which is a lovely way of thinking about it. The Celts have traditionally ascribed magic to stones with holes in them -- some were called crone's stones and linked to witchcraft, because a stone with a hole in it literally allowed you to perceive the world through the earth. The Scholar's Rocks, like Suiseki rocks, had a more internal purpose, as objects that were the focus of meditation and contemplation, often a prelude to painting or writing poetry.

From what I've seen, there are at least two good books on the subject by a collector named Kemin Hu: "The Spirit of Gongshi: Chinese Scholar's Rocks" and "Scholar's Rocks in Ancient China - Suyuan Stone Catalogue."

I imagine that Scholar's Rocks, especially those that wind up in collections, are quite pricey, but here's hoping that one will somehow find its way to you. I'm convinced that rocks are like cats: They have a way of finding the ones they're meant to be with with.

Best wishes,

E.

11:44 AM  
Anonymous handworn said...

It was some time ago, but I believe the display was at the Art Institute of Chicago. From what I understand, some occur naturally and some are "enhanced" as you mention. I suspect enhanced or cut ones are like self-conscious folk art or blended whiskey-- a bit too muddled a confluence of influences to be really good. A scholar's rock, to me, ought to be like having a cloud on your desk that keeps suggesting different shapes to your imagination, depending on time of day, light, mood, etc.

I'm convinced that rocks are like cats: They have a way of finding the ones they're meant to be with with.

That certainly comes through in your writing! In a nice way, of course.

7:50 PM  
Blogger E. said...

Oh, I love your image of the scholar's rock being like a cloud, shifting with light and mood. Obviously, they've already inspired poetry in you.

You know, it's hard for me to get a good sense of what they're like from the on-line photos. [Whereas I looked at the Suiseki photos and connected at once, because so many were like the rocks that are all over my office.] Truthfully, many of the Scholar's rocks seemed almost too convoluted for my taste. However, I also find it impossible to get a true sense of any stone from a photograph. I need to really see -- and if possible touch -- the three-dimensional object. Stones have, quite simply, a presence that can't be experienced any other way.

And of course, I did find some of the ones photographed very beautiful. I can certainly see why the show stayed with you.

I'll definitely keep an eye out for any exhibition or display of Scholar's rocks, as you've got me very intrigued by the idea of stones that have been inspiring art and poetry for centuries. Seems a lovely and vital connection between our realm and theirs, and I suspect that the stones themselves in some way reflect it.

Thanks for writing again.

Best,

E.

9:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings!
I just wanted to say that I thought that SCREAMING FOR FAERIES in THE FAERY REEL is a great short story.Defintly one of my most favorite.I also wanted to say(just because we have it in common) that I have collected stone/gems for as long as I can remeber,and I am a huge faery fan ever since I read TITHE, by HOLLY BLACK. Anyway, I will try to get my hands on a copy of A RUMOR OF GEMS, just because I liked SCREAMING FOR FAERIES so much.

R.

9:15 AM  
Blogger E. said...

Dear R.

Thank you so much for writing in. I can't tell you how nice it is to get feedback like that.

"Screaming for Faeries" is a story that means a lot to me, partly because it was so much fun to write--one of those stories that felt like a true gift-- but also because it gave me a chance to talk about the complexity of sexuality and desire, especially during the teen years.

It's interesting that you're drawn to both gems and tales of the Other Realm. I think they go together very nicely.

As for the realms of Faerie: yes, I think Holly Black is terrific, one of the most original and talented voices in fantasy fiction today. For a very different but equally wonderful approach, you might try Elizabeth Marie Pope's "The Perilous Gard." I know, I know -- the title is not entrancing, but the book is. Set in Elizabethan England it's the story of a young woman who's taken by the fey and her very sexy fellow-captive. And Emma Bull's "War for the Oaks" set in the rock clubs of Minneapolis, of all places, is a complete delight. Also, Terri Windling's Bordland series, set in a future in which Faerie has returned to our world, contains many magical stories.

And for a visual entry to the Realm, check out The World of Froud, www.worldoffroud which features the extraordinary art of Brian and Wendy Froud.

Please let me know if you want more titles. And thanks again for writing.

Good night,

E.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous handworn said...

Just wanted to note that Holly Black's blog (as well as many other writers' blogs) appear in a compilation of such called The White List, here:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/archer904/24741.html

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